Fortune | FORTUNE 10月13日 22:22
播客主持人告别之际,前总统奥巴马进行最后一次访谈
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播客节目“WTF With Marc Maron”在播出16年后迎来了最后一期,其特别嘉宾竟是前总统奥巴马。奥巴马在节目中分享了关于职业生涯转变和人生下一阶段的建议,并赞扬了主持人Maron的真诚与影响力。此次访谈不仅为Maron的播客生涯画上了圆满句号,也再次凸显了播客作为一种深入交流形式的重要性。Maron在节目中也回顾了播客的起源和发展,感谢听众一路相伴,并以对已故宠物的怀念结束了这历史性的一期。

🎙️ 奥巴马前总统作为Maron播客的告别嘉宾,再次强调了播客作为深入交流平台的重要性。此次访问是奥巴马在卸任后,以在任总统身份首次造访播客录音室的十年后,选择在Maron的节目中进行最后一次访谈,具有里程碑意义。

🤝 在告别访谈中,奥巴马为Maron提供了关于如何从人生中最重要的职业角色中过渡的建议,鼓励他享受当下,并从过去的成就中汲取满足感。他认为Maron拥有“核心的正直”和真诚的对话,吸引了大量忠实听众。

🌟 "WTF With Marc Maron" 节目在16年间从一个在车库进行的个人问题探讨,成长为一个媒体机构,吸引了各界名流参与深度访谈。Maron在最后一期节目中回顾了节目的发展历程,并对与听众共同经历的时光表达了深深的感激。

🐾 Maron的播客节目以其对宠物的喜爱而闻名,最后一期节目中,Maron也特别向他已故的猫致敬,为这长达16年的播客旅程画上了充满温情和个人色彩的句点。

The former president gave new status to “WTF With Marc Maron” and to podcasts in general when he visited Maron’s Los Angeles garage studio while still in office a decade ago. Obama brought the 62-year-old host, stand-up comic and actor to his Washington office for the last interview.

Obama asked the initial questions.

“How are you feeling about this whole thing?,” he said, “transition, moving on from this thing that has been one of the defining parts of your career and your life?”

“I feel OK,” Maron answered. “I feel like I’m sort of ready for the break, but there is sort of a fear there, of what do I do now? I’m busy. But, not unlike your job … I’ve got a lot of people who over the last 16 years have grown to rely on me.”

Maron laughed as he acknowledged he was comparing his podcasting gig to the presidency.

“I think it’s pretty similar,” Obama said.

The identity of the guest was not revealed until the episode dropped, and fans had been speculating. Obama was a popular guess, both because of his relationship with “WTF” and because Maron in an interview with Variety in July said Obama would be his ideal final conversation.

The host explained the decision in an unusually brief and straightforward introduction to the episode.

“It became clear that the guest we needed to have was singular,” Maron said, “in that he could address the importance of this being our final episode, but also address how we move through the world we’re living in, as frightening as it is.”

Maron asked Obama for advice on moving on from your life’s biggest job.

“You’ve still got a couple of chapters left,” Obama said. “Don’t rush into what the next thing is. Take a beat. Take some satisfaction looking backwards.”

After a much talk on the state of the world, Obama brought it back around to Maron’s farewell.

“I think we’re going to be OK,” Obama said. “I think part of the reason you had such a big fan base during this 16-year run is there was a core decency to you and the conversations that you had.”

Maron avoided sentimental farewell talk during the episode — he got that out of the way on Thursday in his penultimate episode, where talked directly and emotionally to his listeners.

“I’m grateful to have been part of your lives,” he said. “We’ve been through a lot of stuff together. A lot of breakups. Death. Cats. The world.”

The new Obama episode was No. 1,686 of the pioneering and influential long-form interview podcast that had humble beginnings in 2009 as a place where he worked out his issues with other stand-up comedians in the garage of his home that he dubbed “The Cat Ranch.”

Maron’s cats were always an essential part of the show. His final words on Monday’s episode were tributes to the ones who had died.

“Cat angels everywhere,” he said.

For most of its years the show has opened with a fan-composed rock ‘n’ roll theme song that opens with an audio sample of Maron in his small role in the film “Almost Famous” shouting, “Lock the gates!” The song is named for one of Maron’s common phrases, “Are We Doing This?” Another such phrase, “Are we good?” was often his last question to guests and is the title of a new documentary on him.

Eventually, with help from guests like Obama, Robin Williams and Paul McCartney, “WTF” became a media institution where authors, artists, musicians, Hollywood stars and political leaders would give him their backstory.

Maron announced in June that he and longtime producing partner Brendan McDonald had decided to end the show. He said there was no particular reason, other than that he was tired and utterly satisfied with the work they had done.

On Monday, Maron seemed moved as he read from a pseudolegal document that he had drawn up for Obama to sign, releasing McDonald “from the professional responsibility to listening to me talk.”

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