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深入理解的感受:从物理到数学的感悟
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文章探讨了“深入理解”的真实感受,作者结合自身经历,从大学时期的经典力学考试失败,到物理学和数学中的具体例子,阐述了理解的层次和不同领域间的差异。作者强调,真正的理解并非仅停留在形式上的正确,而是伴随着一种物理或逻辑上的必然感,如同亲身经历一般。文章还指出,对某一领域理解的精深感并不必然迁移到其他领域,并引出了关于理解更高层次、不同领域理解的通用性以及其内在机制的思考。

🔑 **理解的层次感与物理直觉:** 作者通过大学物理考试失败的经历,生动描绘了缺乏深入理解时的迷茫和无助。他认为,真正的理解并非仅仅是记忆公式或概念,而是对事物内在逻辑和物理直觉的掌握,能够感受到“物理上的必要性”,仿佛是回忆起现实世界中必然会发生的事情。这种理解能够提供坚实的基础,而不是在抽象的海洋中漂浮。

💡 **数学理解的独特性与“心像”:** 在探讨数学证明时,作者发现数学的深入理解方式与物理不同。他以函数映射的证明为例,阐述了从“仅仅是显而易见”到真正“理解”的转变。这种转变是通过构建一个动态的“心像电影”来实现的,这个电影直观地展现了证明的核心概念,使得结论显得无比必然。这表明,不同学科的理解体验可能存在根本差异。

🌐 **领域特异性与理解的迁移性:** 文章强调,一个人在某一领域(如数学)培养出的精深理解能力,并不意味着他在其他领域(如社会学)也拥有同等敏锐的判断力。作者用看到不同颜色(物理)和初次看到蓝色(数学)来类比,说明对一种感受的精通并不直接预示着对未知领域的感觉。这提示我们,在跨学科交流或评价他人观点时,应审慎考虑其在特定领域的专业深度。

🤔 **对理解的进一步追问:** 作者在文章结尾抛出了一系列关于理解的开放性问题,包括更高层次的理解是什么样的、是否存在单一的理解层级结构,以及理解能力的泛化和抽象性。他好奇这些感受是否依赖于几何或动觉,抑或是更抽象的层面,并思考能否像插值颜色一样,在不同理解感受之间进行推断。这些问题为读者留下了广阔的思考空间。

Published on October 10, 2025 10:50 PM GMT

I Context

Michael Nielsen and Davidchapman had an interesting conversation on twitter recently about understanding things deeply. David expanded on what he meant in the last tweet. It's interesting reading.

All of that is to say, what it means to understand something deeply? I've had scattered thoughts on this topic over the past few years, and decided to write down how my understanding of what it feels like to understand has evolved. The following is a stylized account. 

II Evolution

Years ago, I sat through a classical mechanics exam in my first year at university, whilst a migraine clouded my thoughts. I remember desperately flitting between ideas that no longer made sense, machinery I had forgotten how to operate, and intuitions which could not be bound to formalism. As I fell down an abstraction stack I could no longer navigate, I failed to grab hold of any knowledge that could form a firm ground for me to stand upon and build back up towards celestial mechanics. Needless to say, I failed.

But that experience stuck with me as an example of what it's like to no longer understand something. A bit extreme perhaps, but it's helped improve my sense of when I don't understand a topic. Infallible, of course, and it requires me to pay attention to the sensation. But now I know what the sensation is.

Or, at least, I thought I did. 

Years later, at my local rat meetup, we were working through problems in thinking physics. We were stuck on one, how will an empty cube move if you remove one side in the presence of air? It felt like I knew what the answer should be, but when I tried grabbing the intuition from the murky depths and pulling it into view of my mind's eye, it kept slipping away. Something to do with how empty tankers collapse if you poke a hole in them. The meetup ended, but I still had no answer. Bull-minded as I was that day, I kept thinking about it for a few hours. 

Then it hit me: take a hand-pump, pull till it creates a vacuum, and it snaps forward and jerks to a halt. Suddenly, I could feel how the cube would have to move. There was a sense of physical necessity to it.  I wasn't dealing with a bit of formal argumentation any more. Instead, I was remembering events in my life and calling up the parts of myself that knew reality could only move one way from there, and giving words to that causal structure. 

And then I understood that for my entire life, I'd almost never really understood a piece of physics. The firm ground I believe I stood on was no more than sand. 

I'd love to say that this insight shocked me into a state of urgency and I rushed about seeking firm ground from which to rebuild my understanding of the world. I didn't. But what did happen is that my sense of what it is like to understand what refined, now that I had a gold standard to which to compare other things to. And I updated all the way that if I underestimated how deeply I can understand something at a gut level, I'm probably still unaware of the heights of understanding. No doubt, when Feynman says he does not really understand something, he's placing the bar a few rungs above where my scale stops. 

Except there were more surprises in store for me. In spite of my mental library now holding one example of deep understanding, it was only one example. Hardly enough to generalize from. You can't even interpolate with only one data-point! And I don't do well out of distribution. Physical knowledge was the distribution and mathematics was outside it. 

I realized this a few weeks later when I understood a new proof deeply. Namely, the obvious proof of why injective maps have a left inverse trivially but surjective maps having a right inverse requires the axiom of choice. At first, I just proved the claim, which was obvious enough. But I didn't have a mental image. I didn't have the sense that reality had to be this way. And recalling my sense that more was possible, I tried to understand the proof more deeply. 

Me mental image for this proof. If f:Line->Disc is injective, you can get a right inverse by taking inverse on its image, and map the rest of the points in the disc to one point in the Line. If f:Disc-Line is surjective, then you get equivalence classes in disc via xyf(x)=f(y). For a left inverse, for each point in line just choose a point in its equivalence class and map it to that. Oops, we invoked the axiom of choice!

Eventually, I stumbled onto a mental movie, one literally highlighting the core concepts in the proof. Suddenly, the conclusion felt necessary and not just obvious. 

What do I mean by "just obvious"? Sometimes, when reasoning your mind might jump to a conclusion. Surely it's happened before? "Oh, f′′(x)=kx, that's clearly an oscillator." You know what the answer has to be. Perhaps it's a bit less crisp than that, like when you realize you have a problem with your breaks when you can't halt your car quickly enough. 

But the realization is just a proposition, a belief. You don't feel the huge causal model you have of reality forcing you to this particular conclusion. It's just intuition, not post-rigorous-intuition you can cash out into a great tower of reasoning scaffolded about sturdy pillars and built upon a rock solid foundation. Instead, it's just dirt floating in the void.

What felt curious about this insight is that I would not have been able to predict the particular texture of deeper understanding in mathematics. It doesn't feel the same as in physics. 

As an analogy, imagine you encounter the color red for the first time. Over time, you see brighter and brighter hues, which you couldn't have conceived of before. Then, you see blue for the first time. Immediately, you know that there should be other hues, but you can't really imagine what they'd look like. 

Which led me to the realization the feeling of deep understanding varies field by field. So someone who has cultivated a very fine sense for understanding in, say, mathematics, who can tell in an instant when they do not understand something because they've been in this situation before, need not have anywhere near as refined a sense for understanding in other areas. That is, a great mathematician can engage in shoddy reasoning about society without realizing it is shoddy. Likewise for other great minds. 

Fine. If one is not enough, then two. If not two, then three. If not three, then more. Just because it is hard to generalize from one sensation, doesn't mean you can't generalize from more examples. Three good examples is a lot, enough to learn the latent structure of many different structures. Perhaps even the structure of understanding itself. 

III Pedantry and Questions

OK, ok, so I might have simplified things somewhat. Like, the distinction between something that you find obvious and something that you deeply understand isn't a binary. It's more of a spectrum. Likewise, it's not the case that you only have firm ground to stand on or are in free-fall. All valid points, and also all pedantry. (Of course, one wants to be a pedant in many cases...)

But I think the simplified model was good enough to get my point across. It should be fairly obvious that between rock solid ground you can bet your life on and a free-fall into insanity, you can have some muddy ground that you can't build the pyramids on, but it'll do for a walk in your wellies. Like, I don't know, taking astronomers on trust when they say the moon is 384,000 km away. Can you feel the necessity of it? I can't. But I understand that figure enough to calculate the velocity of the moon.

OK, that's the pedantry out of the way. Onto some questions I have. What are the higher levels of understanding like? I'm sure they exist, but I don't recall experiencing them. Is there a single hierarchy, or is it more like a tree? How well can you generalize your feelings of understanding? If, say, you have a refined sense of what it means to understand classical mechanics, does that sense generalize to quantum mechanics? Do these senses require something like a geometric or kinaesthetic sense, or can they be more abstract? Can you interpolate between the sensations like you can interpolate with enough examples of colour? 

I don't know. But I'm keen to find out. 



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