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探索身体自我感知:从“出窍感”到“自我迷失”
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本文深入探讨了与身体自我感知相关的异常体验,包括“出窍感”(OBE)和“自我迷失”(depersonalization)。文章指出,身体感知是自我意识的重要组成部分,当这种感知被扰乱时,可能出现漂浮感、失真感,甚至感觉自己不存在。研究发现,这些体验与大脑特定区域(如颞顶联合区)的功能异常、多感官信息整合失调以及某些药物(如氯胺酮)的影响有关。此外,文章还阐述了“自我迷失”在精神分裂症和分离性障碍中的表现,强调了其带来的不适感和意义感的丧失,并初步探讨了其潜在的神经生物学机制。

✨ **身体自我感知的重要性与扰乱**:文章指出,感觉自己拥有一个身体,并“身处”于身体内部,是构成“自我”的重要部分。当这种“在身体中”的感觉被打破,个体可能体验到漂浮感、与身体分离感,甚至感觉自己不存在。这种“非在身体中”的感知可能在濒死体验、使用分离性药物、分离性障碍或某些冥想状态下出现。

🧠 **“出窍感”与大脑活动**:“出窍感”(OBE)是指感觉自己漂浮在身体之外,通常伴有视觉视角扭曲和前庭感觉(如飞行、旋转)。研究表明,OBE与大脑颞顶联合区(TPJ)的活动异常密切相关,该区域是多感官整合的关键部位。癫痫发作或电刺激该区域有时会诱发OBE,这可能源于不同感官模态信息的不协调。

🌫️ **“自我迷失”的体验与关联**:“自我迷失”(depersonalization)或“自我身份紊乱”(ipseity disturbance)是一种脱离感、陌生感或遥远感,不完全是OBE,但仍是一种类感知异常。患者可能感觉自己不再是自己,与身体或心理过程分离,或者感觉周围环境不真实。这种体验常见于精神分裂症的早期阶段,也可能出现在癫痫(尤其是颞叶癫痫)和分离性障碍中,有时通过治疗癫痫可以改善。

🧩 **神经生物学机制的探索**:文章初步探讨了“自我迷失”的神经生物学基础,提到可能与脑岛、前扣带皮层、背侧前运动皮层或颞上中回的活动改变有关。但研究结果尚不完全一致,可能表明“自我迷失”的病因复杂多样,或需要更深入的研究来达成可重复的结论。尽管如此,可以确定的是,丧失“作为个体”的感觉通常会带来痛苦和不适。

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Part of the felt sense of self is perceiving oneself as having a body, or being embodied, or being in one’s body.

Here, I don’t want to talk about embodiment as opposed to “being in one’s head” (the head is part of the body, after all) but embodiment in the sense that you feel like there’s a “locus of identity”, a “you”, somewhere within the boundaries of your body, as opposed to feeling like you’re floating outside yourself or like you don’t exist at all.

People can have these unusual “disembodied” perceptions during near-death experiences, while under the influence of dissociative drugs, or in dissociative disorders, or in some meditative states.

How does this relate to consciousness? A disembodied state is not total unconsciousness — the person can still describe having had an experience — but it’s not the usual relationship of self, body, and experience, where people feel there’s a “me” on the “inside” of the body, and an “outside world” surrounding me.

So, we can ask: what is going on in the brain when this ordinary “inside self/outside world” relationship is disrupted? Are there neurological commonalities between different types of such disruption? How does the brain construct that inside/outside relationship?

Autoscopy and Out-of-Body Experiences

An out-of-body experience is just what it sounds like: the perception that one is floating outside the body, e.g. seeing the world as though looking down from above.

Autoscopy is the related phenomenon of seeing your own body as if “from the outside”, or seeing a “double” of your body. It’s possible to experience autoscopic phenomena while still feeling that you’re “inside your own body” and the “double” is the illusion.1

In out-of-body experiences, there are frequently vestibular sensations (flying, floating, rotating) as well as visual perspective distortions (seeing the world as though from an angle that would be impossible from within your own body).

These experiences can occur in epilepsy, particularly when seizures affect the angular gyrus2 in the inferior parietal lobule, or other regions near the temporoparietal junction.3 Electrical stimulation in the same location as the seizures can, in some patients, recreate the out-of-body experience.

In one case, a patient who didn’t ordinarily have out-of-body experiences consistently had them when electrically stimulated in the angular gyrus and nearby supramarginal gyrus (as part of treatment for tinnitus.) He felt he was about 50 cm behind his body and off to the left.4 Another patient undergoing surgery for a brain tumor repeatedly had out-of-body experiences when stimulated subcortically near the temporo-parietal junction — “she felt as if she floated just below the ceiling and saw her own body lying on the operating table”.5

One speculation is that out-of-body experiences are the result of discordant information from different sensory modalities (visual, tactile, vestibular, and proprioceptive). The temporal-parietal junction that is so often disturbed in out-of-body experiences is a major site of multisensory integration.6 Accordingly, patients with vestibular disorders are more likely (14% vs 5%) to have had an out-of-body experience than controls with no history of dizziness.7

Ketamine, a dissociative NMDA-inhibiting drug, was by far the most correlated recreational drug with out-of-body experiences in a sample of recreational drug users.8 A statistical study of ketamine users supports the theory that the causality goes from “illusory movement” (the feeling that you are moving when you’re not) sometimes causing “out-of-body feelings” (the kinaesthetic sense of not being inside one’s own body), which in turn sometimes causes “out-of-body autoscopy” (visually seeing one’s own body as if from the outside.) Illusory movement is the most common of the three phenomena, and out-of-body autoscopy is the least common.9

Autoscopic hallucinations, like out-of-body experiences, are also associated with seizures or brain lesions, but sometimes in different places than the ones associated with out-of-body experiences, like the occipital lobes, which are sites of visual perception.101112

This localization makes prima facie sense — you get purely visual hallucinations of a “double” when there’s damage to visual regions of the brain, while you get kinaesthetic or multisensory “out of body” sensations when vestibular and sensory-integration regions are disrupted.

This also corresponds well to the theory that the feeling of an “embodied self” emerges from predictable and coherent multisensory integration; when there’s illusory motion, dizziness, or other sensations inconsistent with a fixed or predictable location in space, people are more likely to experience their “locus of identity” drifting outside the physical body.

Ipseity Disturbance and Depersonalization

It’s possible to have a sensation of detachment, strangeness, or remoteness from one’s own body or self; not quite an out-of-body experience but still a quasi-perceptual abnormality.

Some quotes from two schizophrenic patients13:

“In general, I didn’t have a sense of my body anymore; this completely vanished at some time. My face became increasingly strange to me, as it still is today. My voice, too, because I talked much less. Just an extreme self-estrangement.”

“I feel as if I am sitting on some distant planet and there is somehow a camera in my head and those images are sent there. As if I am completely far away from here, where I am sitting right now.”

“For me it was as if my eyes were cameras, and my brain would still be in my body, but somehow as if my head were enormous, the size of a universe, and I was in the far back and the cameras were at the very front. So extremely far away from the cameras. And I walk, and I look around … and I’m dizzy, and all is like a machine …”

Parnas and Handest observed that in early or prodromal schizophrenia, before “positive symptoms” like hallucinations or delusions form, there’s often an experience of dissociation or depersonalization, which they term “ipseity disturbance” — not feeling like oneself.14

Some more quotes from patients:

“my first personal life is lost and is replaced by a third-person perspective”.

“I am no longer myself (. . .) I feel strange, I am no longer in my body, it is someone else; I sense my body but it is far away, some other place. Here are my legs, my hands, I can also feel my head, but cannot find it again. I hear my voice when I speak, but the voice seems to originate from some other place…One might think that my person is no longer here (. . .) I walk like a machine; it seems to me that it is not me who is walking, talking, or writing with this pencil. When I am walking, I look at my legs which are moving forward; I fear to fall by not moving them correctly.”

“I feel a simultaneous implosion and explosion” (as though his body was simultaneously very small and very large.)

“it feels as if my thoughts were slightly behind my skull”… her “point of perspective” was felt “as if displaced some centimetres behind.”

“something in me has become inhuman,” “no contact to his body,” “feels empty”.

The authors hypothesize that certain classic schizophrenic hallucinations or delusions (like thought insertion) are simply consequences of the loss of the feeling of selfhood.

Other delusions, regardless of their bizarre details (reincarnated extraterrestrials and the like), may be interpreted as a process of re-personalization, where the patient hits on some magical/metaphysical thing as a solution to restore the perception of “aliveness”, “realness”, “meaningfulness”, “specialness” that was lost in the prodromal period.

Depersonalization is defined in the DSM as feeling detached from, or like an outside observer of, one’s own mental or bodily processes. People who meet criteria for depersonalization disorder, in a sample of 117 cases, were particularly likely to agree with statements like “my surroundings feel unreal”, “I’m looking at the world through a fog”, or “my body does not belong to me.”15

Some quotes from depersonalization patients16:

““It is as if the real me is taken out and put on a shelf or stored somewhere inside of me. Whatever makes me me is not there. It is like an opaque curtain . . . like going through the motions and having to exert discipline to keep the unit together.”

“I am disconnected from my body. It is as if my body is not there.”

“a feeling of unreality and distance, like I am a spectator of my own movements and of what is going on.”

Patients with either depersonalization disorder or schizophrenia might experience perceptions that their thoughts are not their own (“Thoughts running through his brain again seemed somehow foreign”), that their self is gone (“as if I ceased to exist”), or that their self is somehow unreal or false (“like an actor in a play”, “going through the motions”).17

Despite this subjective feeling of disembodiment or unreality, patients with depersonalization symptoms have intact interoception — they are just as accurate and confident as healthy controls at perceiving their own heartbeats.18

Depersonalization can occur in epilepsy, especially temporal lobe epilepsy, which often coincides with feelings of unreality before and after the seizure. Temporal lobe seizures can go with feelings that one “isn’t there”, “isn’t real”, “is in a dream”, “loses the sense of oneself” or “goes outside oneself.” Out of 47 cases of depersonalization associated with neurological disorders, epilepsy is by far the most common, and in many cases surgical treatment for epilepsy improves the depersonalization symptoms.19

I don’t see a great deal of consistency or clarity across accounts of neural correlates of depersonalization. Some fMRI studies point to decreased activity in the insula20, others to the anterior cingulate cortex21, in depersonalization; an epilepsy study associates depersonalization with activity in the dorsal premotor cortex;22 a PET study finds reduced metabolic activity in the superior and middle temporal gyri in depersonalization23; etc. It’s possible that depersonalization symptoms are too diverse to have a common cause in the brain, or that they aren’t localized anatomically at all — or it could just be that this particular research literature hasn’t successfully come to replicable conclusions yet.

Nonetheless, what we do know is that people can lose the “sense of being oneself” that most of us take for granted, and that this is usually distressing. Depersonalization or “ipseity disturbance” symptoms generally come with an unpleasant sense of falsity, meaninglessness, or troubling strangeness.

They’re not clearly associated with sensory deficits the way out-of-body experiences, rubber hand illusions, neglect, asomatognosia, or somatoparaphrenia are. Disturbances in the “sense of self” might be higher-order or more abstract than sensory processing per se, even though they do involve subjective perceptual distortions (in particular distortions of size, distance, and solidity/boundaries).

In further posts I’ll try to get a sharper picture of what’s going on in the “sense of self”, and also look at what underlies perceptions of agency or volition.

1

Zamboni, Giovanna, Carla Budriesi, and Paolo Nichelli. ““Seeing oneself”: a case of autoscopy.” Neurocase 11.3 (2005): 212-215.

2

Blanke, Olaf, et al. “Out‐of‐body experience and autoscopy of neurological origin.” Brain 127.2 (2004): 243-258.

3

Fang, Tie, Rong Yan, and Fang Fang. “Spontaneous out-of-body experience in a child with refractory right temporoparietal epilepsy: Case report.” Journal of Neurosurgery: Pediatrics 14.4 (2014): 396-399.

4

De Ridder, Dirk, et al. “Visualizing out-of-body experience in the brain.” New England Journal of Medicine 357.18 (2007): 1829-1833.

5

Bos, Eelke M., et al. “Out-of-body experience during awake craniotomy.” World neurosurgery 92 (2016): 586-e9.

6

Blanke, Olaf, and Shahar Arzy. “The out-of-body experience: disturbed self-processing at the temporo-parietal junction.” The Neuroscientist 11.1 (2005): 16-24.

7

Lopez, Christophe, and Maya Elziere. “Out-of-body experience in vestibular disorders–A prospective study of 210 patients with dizziness.” Cortex 104 (2018): 193-206.

8

Wilkins, Leanne K., Todd A. Girard, and J. Allan Cheyne. “Ketamine as a primary predictor of out-of-body experiences associated with multiple substance use.” Consciousness and cognition 20.3 (2011): 943-950.

9

Wilkins, Leanne K., Todd A. Girard, and J. Allan Cheyne. “Anomalous bodily-self experiences among recreational ketamine users.” Cognitive neuropsychiatry 17.5 (2012): 415-430.

10

Bhaskaran, R. A. N. I., A. N. A. N. D. Kumar, and P. C. Nayar. “Autoscopy in hemianopic field.” Journal of neurology, neurosurgery, and psychiatry 53.11 (1990): 1016.

11

Bolognini, Nadia, Elisabetta Làdavas, and Alessandro Farnè. “Spatial perspective and coordinate systems in autoscopy: a case report of a “fantome de profil” in occipital brain damage.” Journal of cognitive neuroscience 23.7 (2011): 1741-1751.

12

Blanke, Olaf, and V. Castillo. “Clinical neuroimaging in epileptic patients with autoscopic hallucinations and out-of-body experiences.” Epileptologie 24 (2007): 90-95.

13

De Haan, Sanneke, and Thomas Fuchs. “The ghost in the machine: disembodiment in schizophrenia–two case studies.” Psychopathology 43.5 (2010): 327-333.

14

Parnas, Josef, and Peter Handest. “Phenomenology of anomalous self-experience in early schizophrenia.” Comprehensive psychiatry 44.2 (2003): 121-134.

15

Simeon, Daphne, et al. “Feeling unreal: a depersonalization disorder update of 117 cases.” Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 64.9 (2003): 990-997.

16

Stein, Dan J., James Schmeidler, and Eric Hollander. “Feeling unreal: 30 cases of DSM-III-R depersonalization disorder.” Am. J. Psychiatry 154 (1997): 1107-1113.

17

Sass, Louis, et al. “Anomalous self-experience in depersonalization and schizophrenia: a comparative investigation.” Consciousness and cognition 22.2 (2013): 430-441.

18

Michal, Matthias, et al. “Striking discrepancy of anomalous body experiences with normal interoceptive accuracy in depersonalization-derealization disorder.” PloS one 9.2 (2014): e89823.

19

Lambert, Michelle V., et al. “The spectrum of organic depersonalization: a review plus four new cases.” The Journal of neuropsychiatry and clinical neurosciences 14.2 (2002): 141-154.

20

Medford, Nick, et al. “Emotional experience and awareness of self: functional MRI studies of depersonalization disorder.” Frontiers in psychology 7 (2016): 432.

21

Sierra, Mauricio, and German E. Berrios. “Depersonalization: neurobiological perspectives.” Biological psychiatry 44.9 (1998): 898-

22

Heydrich, Lukas, et al. “Depersonalization‐and derealization‐like phenomena of epileptic origin.” Annals of clinical and translational neurology 6.9 (2019): 1739-1747.

23

Simeon, Daphne, et al. “Feeling unreal: a PET study of depersonalization disorder.” American Journal of Psychiatry 157.11 (2000): 1782-1788.



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