在《Hidden Forces》第434期中，Demetri Kofinas与葡萄牙前欧洲事务部长Bruno Maçães对话，后者新书《World Builders》探讨了科技与地缘政治的交汇。Bruno提出颠覆性理论，认为世界不再是大国争夺领土资源的战场，而是世界建设的竞赛，强大国家将借此介入我们生活的方方面面，随时随地方便改变世界状态。二人还讨论了美国停止构建全球秩序、中国按自身标准重塑世界的影响，涉及国际秩序、个人自由、虚拟化世界的治理形式及美国若退出或破坏全球建设计划的后果。

🌍 世界建设竞赛理论：Bruno Maçães提出，当代地缘政治不再是传统的大国领土与资源争夺战，而是一场围绕‘世界建设’的竞赛。这场竞赛的核心在于谁能通过科技和意识形态主导全球秩序的构建，从而获得干预我们日常生活各个方面的‘后门’权力，并能随时随地改变世界状态。

🇺🇸 美国全球秩序角色的转变：讨论指出，美国已停止其曾主导构建的全球秩序，这一转变为中国提供了机会，使其能按照自身的科技标准与意识形态蓝图来构建一个全新的世界秩序。这一变化对国际秩序的平衡产生了深远影响。

🇨🇳 中国的新秩序构建：随着美国影响力的相对减弱，中国正积极利用其技术优势与政治影响力，来塑造一个符合其利益和价值观的国际秩序。这不仅涉及经济和贸易规则，更延伸至科技标准、数据治理和数字基础设施等领域。

🤖 科技作为地缘政治工具：科技不再仅仅是经济或军事竞争的工具，而是成为地缘政治博弈的关键战场。各国通过掌握关键科技（如人工智能、5G、生物技术等）来增强自身在全球治理中的话语权和控制力。

🔮 未来秩序的潜在风险：如果美国继续从全球建设中撤退，甚至采取破坏性行动，可能会引发全球秩序的混乱和分裂。这将对全球稳定、经济增长以及个人自由等产生不可预测的连锁反应。

In Episode 434 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Bruno Maçães, a geopolitical strategist and the former Minister of European Affairs for Portugal, whose latest book titled "World Builders" explores the intersection of technology and geopolitics.

In the first hour, Bruno puts forward a radical new theory of geopolitics and technology that no longer views the world as a neutral battlefield between great powers to control territory and resources, but rather as a contest in world building that will afford the most powerful states back-doors into all aspects of our lives that they can use to alter the state of the world at any time or place of their choosing.

In the second hour, Kofinas and Maçães explore why the United States has ceased building the global order it once championed, paving the way for China to construct a new world according to its own technological standards and ideological blueprints. We discuss what this means for the nature of the international order, individual freedom, the form that governance is likely to take in an increasingly virtualized world, and what is in store for all of us if things remain on their current trajectory and the United States recedes from its world building project, or perhaps, even worse, decides to destroy it entirely.

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Episode Recorded on 08/04/2025